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Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.
Now more females are in American universities than males, a statistic contrived at rather than naturally achieved. The same old "positive discrimination" and social engineering. Court decisions in domestic disputes, divorces, child custody stack the cards against men. No wonder it is women who file for divorce nowadays.
Meanwhile children suffer, there are more one-parent families, more, and more serious, juvenile delinquency. Oh well done "Liberalism"!
what could possibly be wrong wih that mentality (sarcasm)
Good movement evolve from promoting change to maintenance of the status quo. To MAD the drinking problem will never be solved, only redefined. The NRA will invent threats against gun ownership. The aristocracy must be keep in luxury. If you made #250k on the war on drugs you really don't wish for a solution putting you on the street.
Feminist are faced, today with the same quandary. The majority of people in universities are women, there are more women employed than men and women spend 70% of the money that goes into consumption.
I recall the uproar when women had fewer seats in universities. There were demands for studies. There were demands for classes and woman reinvent.
When the gender discrepancy is against men women are silent. Was gender quality ever really the noble goal of feminist? Not really.
When, you are the one profiting by the current situation you are invested in no change. Equally is just a word.
The 'Steinhem' in the Steinhem standard is no other than Gloria Steinhem the founder of Ms. magazine. She was defending Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky.
There is no use for the word feminist, because the so-called 'feminists' abandoned the idea years ago. There are groups that do promote the welfare of women, but they don't even refer to themselves as feminists.
Tekakaromatagi
God is a male. We ALL know that.
Man can give birth - Woman came from man's rib.
Woman are lucky they still aren't viewed as chattel.
Woman are lucky they can vote.
Women are cursed with pain during childbirth.
Women can't lift heavy things.
Stop trying to stir up more trouble, liberals.
Feminism is just gender selfishness. Selfishness never makes the world the better place.
Women developed agriculture.
Pound for pound, woman are stronger than men.
Women can endure more pain.
In America, today, women are better educated as a group.
Women are less apt to engage in dangerous or destructive behavior.
Humanity can still survive after losing 95% of its men.
Conservatism is a religion and as nothing to do with facts.
I bet, women run men in America more often than men run women. "If mom isn't happy....no no is happy.
Women even stopped a war by refusing to have sex with their men.
As if people need their extremists right ideology.
When he says, "I spent many years in one of the Master’s programs" this tells all.
The women I know completed their master's degree in only TWO years - not "many years."
Get with it clock-stopper.
Life is leaving you behind in a cloud of dust.
What the anonmous poster at 1:31 doesn't get is that their comment had nothing to do with conservatism. No one is trying to argue that men are better than women. No one is trying to argue that woman cannot do great things.
Conservatives are trying to get it through all the thick skulls out there that we should not be giving special privledges to one group over another. By all means, pay equal pay for equal work. Just don't do as the liberals want us to do - pay equal pay regardless of the equality of the work.
Before poisonous patriarchal systems took hold, societies were largely matriarchal. Goddess worship, agrarian cultures and general peace was prominent.
Then the warring ideology took over almost overnight and it's been wreaking death and destruction ever since.
what gave you that crazy idea? oh - some book written by men? figures.
["Woman came from man's rib"]
yes - and I saw the easter bunny flying the other day..
you be one loony tune, there bub.
that's just crazy. you need to stop and think.
["In America, we have freedom to believe, speak and act regardless of infringement on others"]
no you don't. you have NO right to infringe on me, nor I on you. once you realize that, we will all be better off.
what a nasty response
so anyone who sees the dark side of feminism "hates women"?
actually you merely proved what is wrong with feminism - it is run by intolerant hypocrites who hate men
typical passive/aggressive response - which is why feminism is a joke - it is obviously not about equality - its about power
I'm the liberal who wrote about "Sexual narcissism and the self serving hypocrisy of the feminist movement. What is it, you want to teach me?
Later, I pointed out in response to male egoism that women invented agriculture. Who has a think skull here?
My Masters was a three year program and I only went to school half time so I could provide for my family. But I enjoyed your demonstration of typical liberal tactics - If you can’t disprove the argument, slander the person arguing.
Had I been at the school only 2 years, I wouldn’t have noticed that every single woman that showed up in the program, regardless of her abilities, received a scholarship. But don’t let my observations of reality persuade you. You're way to smart for that.
It's not about me - part-time students aren’t eligible for scholarships. I have no idea what you mean by “neocon” other than you obviously hope it offended me. I have no hatred whatsoever for women. The “poisonous patriarchy” alliteration you're so proud of merely exposed your prejudice and rendered you unworthy of respect.
And this is PRECISELY the problem of the modern American conservative movement.
To conservatives, EVERYTHING is dark.
Even progress is dark to these clockstoppers.
Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique (1963) criticized the idea that women could only find fulfillment through childrearing and homemaking. According to Friedan's obituary in the The New York Times, The Feminine Mystique “ignited the contemporary women's movement in 1963 and as a result permanently transformed the social fabric of the United States and countries around the world” and “is widely regarded as one of the most influential nonfiction books of the 20th century." In the book Friedan hypothesizes that women are victims of a false belief system that requires them to find identity and meaning in their lives through their husbands and children. Such a system causes women to completely lose their identity in that of their family. Friedan specifically locates this system among post-World War II middle-class suburban communities. At the same time, America's post-war economic boom had led to the development of new technologies that were supposed to make household work less difficult, but that often had the result of making women's work less meaningful and valuable.
So you are rewriting history ? And Lysastrata was a play written by a gay Greek in that country's heyday of homosexuality and feminism, not real history .
Goddess vs Patriarchy 3:51
If you think that Patriarchy is such a crime against you, I dare you to walk the streets of Harlem in NYC so you can check out the paradise the women and children have to live in because there are no awful fathers to bother with. REAL heaven, especially for the kids.
And it is the children who are the REAL victims of feminism.
Those who should be our top priority, are not mentioned at all by profeminists here. They sort of get in the way of their totally selfish agenda.
And it entirely misses the point.
People honor and appreciate other people who make big sacrifices for the sake of others — whether that be soldiers at war, people who MUST slave away at work day after day to provide for their families, Christ who gave everything for our sake, or women who place their children and family above their own selfish desire for 'fulfillment'.
I don’t care what women choose to do with their lives. It is their choice.
But people will always reserve their praise only for those who make sacrifices for the sake of others. There is nothing wrong with a woman who seeks ‘fulfillment’ instead of the joys of raising a family. But they have their reward. Don’t expect any praise from God or the rest of us. Even the lowest of creatures can seek to take care of itself. Honor and glory are reserved for those who can aim beyond that mark.
HOT, RICH, SELF-ABSORBED and eventually COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
And is the also the reason the GOP is shunning those outspoken "conservatives" like the plague.
Neocons have gone too far.
It seems to me that the comments posted here demonstrate better than any liberal argument the need for the continued existence of feminism. When arguments like "women are lucky they can vote", "women are lucky they are not still treated as chattel" and women just dont work as hard as men are still being made we can be sure that there is still a need for feminism.
btw, Attacks on women are the predictable results of the liberal-supported porn and free-sex mentality. It has nothing to do with sexism or opposition to feminism.
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
From the 14 Points of Fascism study
Women usually seem to prefer local government and judicial appointments, with a few notable exceptions.
Women have been the heads of government only in Britain and Asia (Israel, India, Phillipines, Pakistan).
Good letter. Yes, feminism is dead. It served it's purpose by getting women the vote and equal pay for equal work, and other rights. But now feminism is about destroying marriage and family since they are considered to be "oppressive to women." It's all about elective abortions and same sex marriage nowadays.
Women have been Presidents in these countries:
Argentina, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Iceland, Malta, Philippines, Haiti, Germany (Chancellor), Finland, Ireland, Burundi, Sri Lanka, Ecuador, Guyana, Latvia, Panama, Indonesia, Liberia, Chile, Israel, India, Georgia, Gabon and Lithuania.
The list of female prime ministers is too long to add here.
The definition of feminism is “equal rights for women.” Some, like the poster at 11:03 p.m., want to add their own personal definitions to the term.
When equal rights has been accomplished on this planet the word will happily fade from use.
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Who really cares if the word feminism offends conservative people, get over it and stop oppressing people.