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'00 Census omissions hurt Utah

not a communist plot | 12:26 p.m. Oct. 21, 2009

Ok Utah county fill out your census form this time.
Do not want a repeat of the last census when ya'll would not participate, and cost us all another seat in congress.
Its not a communist or liberal plot!

Paul | 12:38 p.m. Oct. 21, 2009

What a bunch of hogwash.

Steve | 12:41 p.m. Oct. 21, 2009

HA-HA you can't count the missionaries!

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Psst - it's going to be worse | 1:00 p.m. Oct. 21, 2009

Glenn Beck and the tea party crowd are already anti-census, because it's this great gubmint conspiracy to...uh....what???

I can guarantee you all that the liberals are going to be filling out those census forms.

That means even more of a political shift in Utah, as long as you listen to Beck, Bachmann, the tea party crowd, and 9/12 "movement" and Fox News.

Grandma | 1:21 p.m. Oct. 21, 2009

I dind't know there are a "bunch of grandmas" who go to Brazil and stay for years at a time. What a great line.

uncannygunman | 1:39 p.m. Oct. 21, 2009

NC has nearly 4 times the population of Utah. Is it not likely to assume that many more North Carolinians than Utahns failed to answer the census? Taking ALL unanswered census forms into account, it appears that NC was even more deserving of its additional House seat than the official census numbers indicate.

Limits on what they can ask | 3:46 p.m. Oct. 21, 2009

"[An] Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

The only question I have a Constitutional obligation to answer is how many citizens live in my home. That is all the information for an enumeration that is needed for the Constitutional requirements of an apportioned direct tax (we haven't ever had any in this country) or for representatives to be apportioned.

No losses really. | 5:30 a.m. Oct. 22, 2009

I think that the number of illegals Utah counted as citizens more than offset any losses incurred by citizens that did not respond.

Counting illegals as citizens is like double dipping in to the census pool an illegal violation of the census laws. Aliens should be counted as aliens, not americans and this is one of the more basic reasons Utah has allowed the occupation of this country by illegal foreign nationals.

Head count is more important than national security or american pride. Surrendering your country to illegals has become what government in Utah supports.

If the census forms do not ask citizenship and proof, it will be an objectionable and illegal count. Not asking citizenship is like mailing forms to all of mexico or any other foreign national requesting to include them in the census. And who would know any different about where the forms were sent or returned from?

I answer one question | 8:11 a.m. Oct. 22, 2009

@ Limits on what they can ask

I answer how many people live at my home, and leave the rest of the intrusive and constitutionally-unauthorized questions blank.

The information sought can do no good with for a people ruled by a corrupt federal gunvernment.

Stewart | 1:33 p.m. Oct. 22, 2009

The military serving out of the country were counted in 2000 and added to the number of the state where their home base was located. NC has thousands more serving from their Navy, Marine, Air Force and Army bases than Utah. This was far more than enough for NC to win.

2010 will be the year of the illegal alien problem, because California will likely add three more seats in the Houses as well as three more electoral votes to the three seats that they already get due to their illegal aliens. That would make six seats and electoral votes in CA totally from the illegal alien count. Is it any wonder that CA is doing everything possible to keep their illegal aliens? Is this another reason Obama had the Census moved from the Dept of Commerce to the White House staff?

The worst part of the 2010 Census problem will be the "political" estimates that will be used. Remember the White House staff is in charge. It may as well be ACORN.

Zadruga Guy | 12:43 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009

As the Constitution requires, the census is to be an actual enumeration of RESIDENTS, not citizens. Thus, IMHO, on the date of the start of any particular enumeration, everyone who is in the United States SHOULD be counted where they slept that day, even tourists from other countries, BUT no one who did not sleep in the United States on that day should be counted, regardless of whether they are a United States citizen.

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