Deseret News | Reader comments: Utah will host new $1.9 billion NSA spy center

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Utah to host $1.9B NSA spy center

Anonymous | 11:49 a.m. July 2, 2009

Now Utah can be in the movies! Yaay spy movies.

prepare | 11:52 a.m. July 2, 2009

get ready for power outages for home owners. We already have them on a regular time line anyway. rocky mountain power is pacific power and they are the fun rolling blackout guys. remember Enron they did blackouts for big companys and sold them the power from the blackout homeowners.

I wonder | 12:11 p.m. July 2, 2009

I wonder if this is because there are so many bilingual returned LDS missionaries around the area.

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More revenue for Utah is good | 12:14 p.m. July 2, 2009

So the power company will get a lot of money from the government on this one. Will that offset the increase the government is creating in our power bill, by causing power companies to pay the government for carbon credits they are going to charge in the future? How come the government gets the bill for those phoney charges, anyway?

Mike | 1:32 p.m. July 2, 2009

What a chance to have Cap and Trade work. The Carbon Credits to run this facility ought to more than pay for some more wind turbines to supplement the two already there to run this place. With all that power, that place ought to glow in the dark.

Smart | 3:10 p.m. July 2, 2009

Let's just announce to the entire world the exact location so N. Korea and other terrorists can have another target.

RE: Smart | 4:15 p.m. July 2, 2009

This under the auspices of the "smartest" president ever.

I think not, the liberal democrats are joke.

By the way, what make you think the rest of the world didn't already know?

Apparently they will not exactly be doing top secret work there.

ARMY ASA | 4:43 p.m. July 2, 2009

The Tom Clancy technology is already 30 yrs old and when he published his first book it was almost another 15 years old. We were doing Enemy Of The State type things in the late 70's Believe me the technology is way out there already. By the time the North Koreans get their primative missles up to the capabililty of our present day missles We'll have the anti missle system and into warp drive. When you hear about the latest new stuff it's already been in service for years.

OH NOOOOOO! | 4:44 p.m. July 2, 2009

Obama has approved spying on Americans! He's violating my civil liberties! He's a stomping on the constitution! Oh noooooooo!!

Anonymous | 4:52 p.m. July 2, 2009

Big Deal..... Everybody in the world knows that DIRNSA resides at the home office at Ft Mead Maryland It's not where the NSA hangs it's hat it's all about how and what they do. You people are a bunch of couch patatoes that need to get a life and get outdoors once in a while.

For those of you slow on the uptake

DIRNSA = Director of the National Security Agency

Please Note | 5:07 p.m. July 2, 2009

You have no civil Liberties in Utah.
Obama will have to re constitute the U.S Constitution before you have any Rights.
You are not aware that Obama is a Professor of Law?
You are to eager to blame the wrong people for deeds they have not done.
This shows how stupid you are about what we call Social Studies.
The News Papers are not telling the real story.
Your Right to freedom of the press is being objective as to what you can say and do.
We have lost America, The only Right we have left is the 2 nt Ammendment.
The Right to bare Arms when the time gets right.

Josh Finegan | 5:26 p.m. July 2, 2009

Ask yourself, do we want to become like Maryland??? Traffic. All citizens BANNED from owning handguns. Power outages? High taxes? Affirmative action?

The more this federal government grows the more it will tighten its grip on our freedom until there are no strong virtuous independent men and women left.

Yes, all U.S. citizens are spied on. Yes, they are implanting informant networks throughout all our major cities. Bribing. Manipulating. Domestic SIGINT and HUMINT spying. We allow it! While they pick us off one by one we sit and gorge our bellies, soak up media propaganda, and shop at the malls. They want our kids addicted to video games and pornography. Its easier to control dumb sheep. More bodies to enlist in the military. Your name could be on a federal watchlist and you won't even know it - until they break down your door at night to arrest you.

How do you know someone deserves to be a slave? Because they ARE a slave. They allow it! Wake up America. Unite! Return State's Rights. You think Utah will benefit from having even more federal government in the state? Come on.

Did You Know... | 6:36 p.m. July 2, 2009

REF: Please Note

...that there is this preacher who always starts a joke with God Bless You. He does it for a very good reason. If you want to offend someone by using a joke without being openly malicious then tell them first "God Bless you" Well in your case God Bless You...over....and over...and over again. That's about the dumbest thing I've seen on this article.

WE bear arms when we shoot to kill an enemy. When as kids we fight in a parking lot or on the school grounds, it's usually a bare knuckle fight. There's a world of difference between those two simple words. Concentrate on getting a decent education before you attempt to tell people what you think is happening in the world....most of us already have a pretty good idea.

JC | 7:09 p.m. July 2, 2009

Where theres money to be spend theres greed. Bring on the spies (deceit, lies and misinformation) thrives in the intermountain west

Loose Lips Houlihan | 7:30 p.m. July 2, 2009

Please Note | 5:07 p.m. July 2, 2009

//You have no civil Liberties in Utah.//

What about the new liquor laws?

re: JC | 7:09 p.m. July 2, 2009

//Bring on the spies (deceit, lies and misinformation) thrives in the intermountain west//

Who needs some fancy listening post @ Camp Williams when there is one in every neighborhood along the Wasatch front.

Everyone on knows that Ft Huachuca (SW of Tucson) is the western version of Ft Meade.

RCS` | 10:17 p.m. July 2, 2009

I figure there ought to be some consideration for those of us who live close by -- like only monitor every 5th word we type on our computers, or some such. I hope they catch the bad guys.

Great for Utah | 6:31 a.m. July 3, 2009

This is great news for Utah. Other states wanted this facility, and they chose Utah for valid reasons of having a high quality well-educated young workforce to draw upon. ANd the future of our military is high-tech and this is forefront in that fight. And it will come with over 1,000 good high-tech jobs to boot. This is nothing BUT good news!

Dr W | 7:40 a.m. July 3, 2009

This will be interesting! Previous management studies about WHY large organizations either do not WANT to come to Utah or else fold up and leave quickly after doing so emphasize that the priority structure of the average Utah worker is as follows:

Church
Family
Work (if there is any time left over)

Wonder if NSA talked to any middle managers in Utah to hear about the OUTRAGE on the part of workers who are not allowed to sell candy bars from their cubicles (because they need the money) or expect salary increases when they have an addition to the family?

Re; Dr W | 8:59 a.m. July 3, 2009

LOL...... I guess that is why Microsoft, HP, the Gov. etc.... are now building these large *NEW* facilities here in Utah, because they can't get anyone to do anything except whine about their jobs.....

I know you've surely heard this before, but, if you don't like the climate here, feel free to leave at anytime, and don't let the door hit you when you go.

D.COTANT | 10:22 a.m. July 3, 2009

US GOVERNMENT: IF YOU SPY ON ME OR MY EMAIL ACCOUNT; THAT PLAN ON A FAT LAWSUIT!

Cats | 10:52 a.m. July 3, 2009

These are some of the most bizarre blogs I have ever seen.

Good point, though. The international language skills here in Utah certainly make it an attractive place for NSA.

I hope some of you people can get counseling for your paranoia.

Wow! | 10:55 a.m. July 3, 2009

The comments on this article certainly took an abrupt left-turn from the message in the original story.

Great News | 12:09 p.m. July 3, 2009

It will create a lot of jobs!

Zap! | 3:06 p.m. July 3, 2009

We need to invest tax payer money in Cheerio detectors for Sacrament meeting!

North Korea's next target | 3:40 p.m. July 3, 2009

Oh yeah, this is all we need! One more reason to put Utah on the map for rogue states like North Korea so they can aim their missiles right at us. With Obama's approach to international affairs, we have a good chance of becoming a prime target in WWIII.

Re: Dr. W hat the? | 4:36 p.m. July 3, 2009

I have to agree with the previous comment regarding your below first-grade-reading-level response. Utah produces great, honest, hard-working citizens of this fine country. Is it just me or do most people wish that their families and religion were listed above work. Who would rather work than be with family or serving in some capacity for their respective religion? Luckily in Utah we realize what is important in life. No wonder why our state's economy is the strongest in the nation. If you don't like the climate, but have a problem leaving because you are a Jazz fan or something, rest assured you can still be a Jazz fan living in a state that will accept your below second-grade-reading-level responses. Get Out!

I have | 4:59 p.m. July 3, 2009

been wondering about the exact location of the Rhoades mine and the myths about bigfoot in the high uintahs. Now maybe they can finally zoom in to find them..........LOL!!!

Rick | 8:50 p.m. July 3, 2009

The story talks about enabling "network-warfare operations to gain a decisive information advantage for the nation and our allies under all circumstances." It seems a big part of the mission of this center is for cyber-warfare. To be able to attack our enemies' networks and defend our own. Recall the Russian cyber attacks that shut down the Georgian websites? As our nation becomes more dependent on our networks they naturally would have to be defended. I am glad that our country is being pro-active on this. Good choice of location.

Secret Loyalists | 1:44 p.m. July 5, 2009

For decades Utah has proven to be best location for classified secrets thanks to the Granite Vault System and blind loyalty to Utah leaders, especially by LDS returned missionaries who have been covert operators, many now retired and living in Utah. President Obama wants Governor Huntsman in China because this China is the most spied nation by the US Government and the Utah NSA operation is connected. The Chinese like Utah because their Chi Temples (since 400 AD) do the same functions as the LDS Temples (since 1845 under Brigham Young)

wow | 5:09 a.m. July 6, 2009

lds rm's are covert operators?! holy cow, that's pretty covert, i didn't even realize i was a covert operator! i guess that explains the badge that makes everyone know exactly who i am!

Yikes | 2:13 p.m. July 15, 2009

Umm - quoting a fiction novel in a misguided attempt to lend credibility to a news article is laughable. Sounds like this journalist flunked the "NEWS-101" course.

And - all you NIMBY whiners are unbelievably uninformed. Do you really think that, until this article was published, all of our enemies had absolutely no clue that NSA was building this facility, and exactly where it is?

akuankka | 10:26 a.m. Aug. 18, 2009

Hey Dr W

Welcome to Utah!
When are you leaving?

JD | 11:42 a.m. Oct. 6, 2009

If they are gong to spend the money it might as well be here. I'm sure half of those employed will be from out of state anyways. Hopefully they give the construction bids to legal local contractors.

Jack Fids | 2:25 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009

The NSA also has a facility in Alice Springs Australia, built before GW Bush, because before him it was constitutionally illegal for the NSA to spy on America or Americans FROM America. The entire operation was funded by the US taxpayer and turned over to a Contractor in Australia to avoid breaking the law.
Once John Yoo subverted the US Constitution US employees filled the place of the sub contractors. This is nothing more than a relocation of a proir facility that is now being used for deeper investigations into the lives of US citizens that is STILL illegal, data mining of ANY record in public & from the internet of EVERY citizen! The NSA has OVER 75,000 employees OR 1500 paid people per state to spy on the residents OF THAT STATE. When the knock at the door comes in the middle of the night for your neighbor it will be too late to save you from this totalitarian police force which we ALL allowed to happen w/o a single voice of dissent.

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